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Modbiki's Month of Pain
So with Persona 5 the Animation being out for a few weeks now, I’ve seen a lot of discussion about its quality as both an adaptation and as a general anime. Mostly I’ve just been seeing people say it sucks, myself included. For various reasons, not many people are happy about it and it seems I can’t go a day now without someone on some website talking about it. More recently I’ve stumbled upon someone who just shrugged it off with the phrase “It’s still better than Trinity Soul”. Talk about being damned by faint praise. Since reading this comment, a question has been scratching in the back of my mind. Not if P5A is actually better or not, I frankly don’t care. Instead I’ve been thinking… “Wait, did someone actually watched that show?” I often see it get ignored more than anything, and rarely do I see anyone comment on the actual series itself, just the fact that it is bad and this is an accepted fact. I remember near the end of high school, I tried to watch Trinity Soul, and later I live streamed it in the early days of the Phansite. Honestly, I never paid a whole lot of attention to it on either of these attempts, and more or less dropped it after a few episodes, but I didn’t actually hate what little I saw and paid attention to. Now I’m actually curious though, if it is bad… why is it bad? The easiest solution to the question would be trying to find some actual review instead of actually wasting my time, but where is the fun in that? Thus I introduce the Month of Pain. Starting May 1st, I’m going to try and watch an episode of Trinity Soul a day and try to return here to talk about it in some capacity. More importantly, I encourage everyone to try and join me in the suffering of watching it throughout the month and trying to discuss it together. It may turn out to be a diamond in the rough, more likely, it may turn out to be the exact shit that was expected, but the least we can do is try to come together as a community and have fun with the experience. Maybe we can all join in and discover something neat, or just all point and laugh at the entire thing… potentially also just all be mad we wasted our time. Whatever, it might be fun right? Whelp, if you’re interested, I hope to see you join as much as possible from the 1st to the 26th of May.
I for once consider this an excellent idea. Let's all see what the hell is the deal with Trinty Soul because frankly, I'm vaguely curious. Worst case is that we find out it sucks and go to ATLUS HQ to kill them all for signing off on such an anime. And that seems a solid bonding activity from where I'm standing.
Trinity Soul is a pretty fun watch and great when doing it with others.
Perfect, now I have a reason to suffer through the pain that is apparently Trinity Soul, hopefully they have a Tri Card!
TRI-CARDS ARE FAKE AND GAY THEY DON'T EXIST!
Just a small thing to clear up since I had a couple people ask in Direct Messages about this. I want it to be an episode a day thing, but I'm not really planning on streaming it or anything so I can actually focus on what I'm watching. So no need to worry about potential scheduling issues. Just watch it whenever you can in the day, leave your thoughts, discuss, etc. Also an obvious point but worth mentioning cuz someone would complain otherwise. Once this begins there will be talk of unmarked spoilers, worth keeping in mind if you care. If you decide to watch ahead or have already seen it, I would request you do use spoiler tags for anything containing info from episodes past what the thread is currently up to that day.
More like real and straight :me:
why would you do this to yourself? . . . and why am I agreeing to do it too?
Because Soup, you like fun... and tri-cards
Will Trinity Soul give me aids if I touch it?
I’m still waiting for a Persona 1 animation.
Maybe ATLUS will send a DVD of it to your grave.
Should I.. Join? Biki did you send me a link to this to 1. realise your pain and 2. get me to join it cuz it might be working...
Maybe ATLUS will send a DVD of it to your grave. As long as A-1 doesn’t do it.
Will Trinity Soul give me aids if I touch it? No but the other TS might. Should I.. Join? Biki did you send me a link to this to 1. realise your pain and 2. get me to join it cuz it might be working... The second one, obviously... mostly.
Color me intrigued and interested, I'm in. just like bad movie club back at my school...
B-Biki! Does that mean you're.. Evil..?
特A潜在
Well, first episode is done. Figured I'd get it done early (in my timezone), for extra fun. It was... all right, honestly. For a Persona series, the beginning actually had a pretty welcome, darker tone, a slower approach it feels like. Which is odd I guess since it took less time for Shin to awaken his Persona than maybe anyone else in this franchise. The setup of the mystery feels kind of poor though, it's quick to throw terms like Latency, Reverse, and the 'Odo Contamination' at us, without really explaining much and it's never been a method that blended well with me. Though to be fair they kind of did explain the Reverse case in part. The OP theme, Breakin' Through, is pretty catchy, I like it, though I would have expected more from Persona. It's good, but a generic kind of good. I'll enjoy it while I watch the show but I don't expect it to stick with me. Jumping ahead a bit, the ED is also a bit disappointing, the song is kind of nice. I find it rather soothing despite it carrying a name like Suicides Love Story, though the disappointment here comes from a lack of animating, only panning across a fairly surreal but static image. Also Lotus Juice is here, so the music at least will most likely be enjoyable if nothing else. The focus on a family here is another welcome choice, I think I might be able to appreciate at least this. Though it's clearly not the most loving family around. Shin and Jun seem to be fairly close, but Ryo comes across as an ass. I understand he's focused on his job but the least he could do was make sure Shin and Jun could get in the house instead of just assuming they'd remember after a decade. Shin so fair seems to be as plain a Persona protagonist as expected, though Jun seems a bit concerning with whatever is going on with him and his 'twin'. I'm a bit confused by the appearance of Igor here, I mean him showing up was expecting, but it seems odd for himself to be wearing something beyond his usual suit. The fortune teller setup on the street is also a bit strange, though given Shin wakes up moments later... I guess the goddamn street is just his Velvet Room. I'm going to be honest, I rather like the Personas here. Sure they might resemble a being from another franchise more than usual potentially, but this is perhaps how Personas really should act in Persona anime. Too many times in the anime adaptions we do have of the games do Personas come across as nothing more than spell dispensers, which while accurate to how they are in the games, does not make for an interesting scene. Some choices here, like having some older Persona users like Ryo, Personas appearing in the physical world and having a proper presence actually gives me flashbacks to the early Persona games, and I'd say that's a good sign to a degree. I do take issue with some things about them, like Shin's Awakening seemed awkward. Perhaps Personas here are more instinctual here than anywhere else. Though given his strange dreams and those statues and drawings he had, perhaps he has already awakened previously. Then there's the weird instance of ripping out another Persona to... absorb it? That's kinda fucked up, though in a way I appreciate it, since Persona tackles some dark themes but it rarely feels like they want to show something so intense. The problem with this is just the fact I don't understand it. I'm sure it will explain later... it better, but it seems the absorbed Personas are fighting back later, causing some huge trouble for the guy. I imagine anyway, that this is what the drugs he tried to take were meant to prevent, but it just seems stupid. I'm curious what the benefit could possibly be. So uh... I mean, I didn't hate it. I probably will later, but so far it's fine enough, and actually kind of an interesting take.
Just finished with episode 1. It wasn't bad, and I'm actually interested in seeing what they're going to do with the story. The differences from the games are welcome, even if the Igor one was kind of strange. I kind of expected an "I am thou, thou art I" on Shin's Awakening, but fine, I'll take it as it is. Love that the Personas actually do something else than just spamming. Big Bro is kind of a jerk to his family, but whatever. And maybe the drug thing is a throwback to the P3 dudes who had to take drugs to keep their Persona stable. Would love that. But I'm kind of confused regarding the whole "eating" thing. All things considered, I liked this episode. While probably it won't, I hope it will continue on this road.
Well Trinity Soul was released right after P3, so the drugs are not unexpected, but I'm curious if this is for a different reason. The scene of other beings bursting from his Persona makes me think it is, but I guess we'll see. That's a good point though, the lack of the "I am thou, thou art I" line might help my theory that he's already awakened before and just... forgot. Somehow.
Someone forgetting gaining a Persona is nothing new, though in P2 the line was still said upon it being summoned again so uh that doesn't help the theory so much I guess. Not to mention ATLUS loves to pretend 1/2 don't exist. Also on another note, I'll watch it when I get home from work, was busy last night.
Also a fair point. I guess we'll see, maybe someone just fucked up. Highly possible. I mean at least ATLUS is kind enough to have P1/2 cameos and DLC... Better than actually pretending they actually never existed.
Going through EP 1 now and after 18 minutes I've seen that it's really really long! A full film's length for each episode! It definitely has P3/4 tones under it with a strange mystery happening! So far it isn't bad! The OST is honestly really good, a bit dark for my tastes now tbh but otherwise not bad! The fight scenes were pretty good and there was a lot of foreshadowing! Each enemy has some personality/design to them which is nice! The 3 main characters seem alright! The Brother detective, Main Protag and mysterious little brother seem to have their own character arcs perhaps? I'm interested to see what comes of them! The OP is okay, it probably has some symbolism going over my head! But so far, I'm interested to see more! PS At the 24-minute mark and the show seems to have ended. Must have had a glitched version! My bad!
PSS Also the animation leaves some room to be desired, 720p isnt the best quality, but for the time it was made I'll let it slide for now!
After having finished watching it I do have some things to mention. First, I really liked both the OP and Ending songs, though I guess I'm not too hard to please in that department Second, both of the fight scenes kinda seemed to come out of nowhere, but it was more of an introduction to the kind of enemies there would be, so that's fine. Though I think it might have been improved by giving the Protag an actual awakening scene rather than "randomly find a thing to fight and btw here's his persona, cool isn't it?" Unless I simply wasn't paying any attention and it didn't come as out of nowhere as it seemed to me
I want to join in on this month of pain. I’m going to start to watch it. But do I have to right a whole essay like what you did hibiki
Only if you want, if you've got like 3 sentences to say, go for it. I just like to analyze things if I can.
Watched the first episode quickly, decent so far. The second fight was a bit awkward, but the Persona fights are interesting otherwise. Also, Persona cannibalism I think.
Ok, I watched Episode 1 last night, but decided not to post until today because I was tired af I wanted to sleep on my reflections. So, so far, it's not the worst. Igor came outta nowhere, and they throw terms at you like "Reverse" and "Latency" like nobody's business, but it's ok otherwise. The music is alright, and I like the characters so far. I am kind of interested in the side plot with protag's little brother (maybe developed a tulpa after she (presumably) died?) and want to see where they go with it. And, forgive me, I like this version of Persona's more, since they seem more like separate entities rather than just tools. Awakening was a bit awkward, as has been said before. Overall rating: 7/10
影抜き
Well, finally got around to episode 2. I'm still a bit upset that they seem to like throwing terms out there, and kind of expand on them but it never wants to really explain what it means. I suppose it's fine, it seems they mostly wanted to introduce new characters this time. We already have some kind of antagonist group. It's fairly interesting, just some punks who have Personas. The blue-haired woman had a cool Persona, though the way Personas started to be used here kind of concerns me. Shin's at least almost seems to be acting by itself, which seems odd, maybe he's just relying on instinct more than anything. On the bright side we've been introduced to what I'd presume is our party now. Best Girl Megumi (it's a shame her karaoke debut was skipped over), Funky Student Takuro (who got introduced with an amazing sudden background track), and Kanaru. She is okay. Not much of a 'character' yet but there's also that creepy girl in red who had a good moment of focus. Now we get introduced to more shit to try and learn about, Shadow Extraction. Honestly I'm not sure if it's just me but the scenes regarding Shadow Extraction seemed to be filled to the brim with unexpected homosexual subtext. Like a lot. Schoolgirl Lesbians confirmed. I think I sort of understand what the intention is of Shadow Extraction though, it's not really explained as nothing is, but Shin performing a Shadow Extraction on Takuro, which awakened his Persona strangely. So that gives it kind of a clear idea. Also this episode just had a pretty fucked up conclusion. I don't know what else to say, the way this episode ended is just downright uncomfortable.
Episode 2 complete! As before, the episode wasn't the worst. The music always seemed to blend in with whatever was happening (and the inclusion of some P3 tracks in the karaoke was nice!) but ultimately was nothing to write home about. The introduction of the rival group and Funky Police Margaret was interesting, and the basic party seems to have formed, giving us a base story. Still some weird stuff that will hopefully get explained later (submarine mystery, little hallucinatory girl on the bridge, etc.) The Persona evocation method here seems to be some kind of massage, which will make battles...interesting. And that ending. Wow. Seems Trinity Souls has no qualms about going there. Overall Episode rating: 7/10
マレビト
Seems Day 2 was VERY successful. Well I guess this confirms they have awakened before. Though didn't expect the other guy to know who Igor was. Jeez, the punks got what they deserved I guess, but I wasn't expecting so much blood and shit. I guess this explains Reverse Syndrome and Shadow Extraction are related somewhat... and to Persona Awakening, great. Also the big brother is still an asshole. Megumi danced with her female senpai? Lesbians confirmed. So I guess Personas here can actually be stolen from their owner and used by someone else? In some cases they seemed temporary, maybe that's related. That's bizarre. Also I really like these designs, as mentioned before, but damn is it annoying that they're so transparent it's almost difficult to make some of them out, especially with the dark colored backgorunds.
For now I'm enjoying it, I truly hope it will continue this way. BTW, creepy bipolar bro is creepy
So I just watched the episode and...ummm, what? The episode made a whole lot more questions than it answered, and along with some dialogue issues and some wonky animation, it made this episode quite...not great. I realize that this is probably a set-up episode for later, but unfortunately, I'm rating these individually, with a series rating at the end. Episode Rating: 4/10
くじらのはね
I want to try and be analytical but honestly this fucking sucked and I don't wanna talk about it.
(edited by Hibiki)
It's...getting harder to watch. That's for sure.
With it getting harder to watch and not as much interest in this as I wanted, I uh... am probably going to update this every few episodes now I guess.
Tfw you miss tons of episodes Uhh! I'll catch up eventually!
I..I don't know anymore.