THE DELICIOUS PANCAKES DID IT!

Yup right.
Maybe we just need to remove the Pancakes.

But the Memes._._

I don't know. Playing through the game I didn't catch on at first until after getting caught. Then again I didn't pay much attention to the scene at the tv studio.

nah. Akechi being dead is good. We don't need him. Let's not bring him back for the fight games either. Let the dude catch some Z's

Well I catched right at the Pancakes thing.
But I hoped they would not do it but they did.

Also I don't want Akechi dead because his spells actually saved me a lot.

I can't believe I actually wasted good money on him just for the bastard to die.

How to Improve the Plot of Persona 5:

Step 1: Remove Goro Akechi.
Congratulations!

Goro being an obvious traitor was definitely the intention. The way it leads into the team planning to squirm a way out of escaping capture after the fact, and how the Goro situation distracts you from the actual fake Igor twist, is something I like. It even makes you second guess yourself; it seemed way too obvious to me after how Atlus played the fair mystery hidden-in-plain sight killer pretty well in that last game, ao much so that I thought he might be a red herring to throw you off. As an 'untwist' I think it fits fine. But I don't like the way the flashback 'we knew all along lol' sequences and the non-resolution of Goro's character arc were executed at the end of all this.

Also there's some serious weirdness in some of the dialogue around that scene; like when he pulls out Loki and Makoto says something like "Was he the one behind all the mental shutdowns" all surprised, even though this was like a couple of hours after a flashback where everyone had already concluded that it was probably him. The idea that it was almost certainly Goro that killed Wakaba doesn't even surface at all despite it being a massive part of Futaba's character... why? It's just glossed over for no reason.

I agree with you Pixie ,
to me it actually seemed to forceful
and like some Parts are missing.
Oh well I think Atlus is just Atlus there.

thats cus they cut a buncha the game out.

You remove pancakes you remove me

You know what's funny in my first playthrough I did think about the pancake part but at the time I waved it off thinking "eh it's fine maybe Ryuji said pancakes in confused tone after morgana said it" and dropped the thought until it was brought up. So in the ng+ I listened carefully XD

First, anyone who actually thinks Akechi is dead, *ryomalaugh*.jpg. Yeah he ain't dead. Just wait for P5A or whatever other sequel/spinoff they do.

Second, I honestly think Akechi himself is fine, it's just his last few moments that are a wreck. I can get what they were going for, but I felt it all happened way too fast. All you really get of him after the massive ass plot twist is a small inner monologue and one or two conversations with Shido, which really isn't enough. I probably would've had the team confront him at the beginning of the palace and then have him join again (I wanna use Loki) to help take down Shido all while they constantly remind him that he's a piece of shit and maybe even have it to where he's agreed to turn himself in after taking Shido down. They could also have him interact with Sae a bit before you're given full access to the palace. The boss rush in the engine room could have you fighting cognitive Akechi instead of actual Akechi and the end result still has him "dying" to save the team.

Also, it only recently hit me that for all the people hating Akechi because he's fake as a $3 bill, that that's pretty much the entire point of his character. Hell, he even flat out says it during the fight with him.