They all look like respectable waifus.

I think Ohya looks more of a Mary Sue then a waifu if you ask me.

There's no such thing as looking like a Mary Sue unless a character is obviously trying to stand out design wise. A Mary Sue is typically associated with one's mannerisms and actual backstory.

I don't even recognize two of them. Kawakami in center? Who's the one on the right, with the gum?

Though I must say I dislike Persona 5's whole ideology of "make every female character beautiful". Originally a lot of the characters were going to have much more varied appearances such as Ohya actually having the appearance of an alcoholic but Atlus canned all those ideas stating that all the females in the game should be attractive. So, in that regard there is a bit if a Mary Sue type trope going on there.

I don't even recognize two of them. Kawakami in center? Who's the one on the right, with the gum? From Left to Right, it's Chihaya, Takemi, Kawakami, Sae, and Ohya.

Oh man. I could barely tell that was Ohya at all.

It's not exactly that hard. She has her recognizable haircut, and the gum is clearly here for the "Bad Girl" aesthetic that ends up evolving into alcoholism.

The school girl look wholly disguises both her and Sae the most, (even Kawakami to a degree) if only because how generally business minded they look overall. Sae and Ohya look the least like students overall, to be more precise. So this image of them was initially jarring.

Why do you hurt me so? What the hell kinda question is 'Do they look like Mary Sues' anyway?

Why do you hurt me so? What the hell kinda question is 'Do they look like Mary Sues' anyway? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue Mary Sues are essentially characters that are perfect just for the sake of being perfect.

The school girl look wholly disguises both her and Sae the most, (even Kawakami to a degree) if only because how generally business minded they look overall. Sae and Ohya look the least like students overall, to be more precise. So this image of them was initially jarring. Honestly, I didn't even recognize Sae at first. Her hair looks the same shade as Chihaya's, and the hairclips aren't visible.

The school girl look wholly disguises both her and Sae the most, (even Kawakami to a degree) if only because how generally business minded they look overall. Sae and Ohya look the least like students overall, to be more precise. So this image of them was initially jarring. Honestly, I didn't even recognize Sae at first. Her hair looks the same shade as Chihaya's, and the hairclips aren't visible. Me neither. I thought it was Ann with different hair.

I'm aware of what a Mary Sue is. I'm remarking on asking if someone 'looks' like one is kinda dumb.

Unrelated note, I like that new avatar, Ohya.

Huh? I think the only reason I wanted to ask this and see what everyone thought of this was because when I was looking up on what a Mary Sue is and from what I've read, there was no real "definition" of one, but I did read that Mary Sue's typically try to look "perfect" and when I came across this, I though to myself that it fitted the description of a Mary Sue.

Huh? I think the only reason I wanted to ask this and see what everyone thought of this was because when I was looking up on what a Mary Sue is and from what I've read, there was no real "definition" of one, but I did read that Mary Sue's typically try to look "perfect" and when I came across this, I though to myself that it fitted the description of a Mary Sue. I thought the definition was a 'perfect' or seemingly flawless self-insert character for the author and/or audience to either live vicariously through or overcompensate for real world problems (ie, the author is fat, so she writes herself as the skinny hot girl). It's not always exclusively female characters either, that's just the term for it, because it started out from a female author, and indeed there are far more examples of female Mary Sues than male ones. Other terms for male ones, such as Gary Stu have also been used though. Or if you want the short version of what a Mary Sue really is: Bella Swan from Twilight. For both the author and general fanbase of it. And no, I don't see that picture of them, at all, as what I consider to be a Mary Sue.

You are partially right on the definition Togo. But like I said, there really is no official definition of a Mary Sue. As time passed on, the definition you mentioned might of been the "official" definition at one point (and probably still is today). I also wanted to mention that I showed this to someone one time and they said, out of all people he had to compare them to, they've said that Raven (from My Immortal) and Tae "looked" alike. For a moment, I actually saw the similarities.

I also wanted to mention that I showed this to someone one time and they said, out of all people he had to compare them to, they've said that Raven (from My Immortal) and Tae "looked" alike. For a moment, I actually saw the similarities. Most Mary Sues come from young people who like anime, thus most Mary Sues tend to come across as very anime-like, for both boys and girls. So, that makes sense.

Ah ok. I was anxious about asking this here because I ask this on a server I'm in one time and oh boy, I've never seen so many people get triggered by this.

Ah ok. I was anxious about asking this here because I ask this on a server I'm in one time and oh boy, I've never seen so many people get triggered by this. Do you mind sharing which site it was? If it was Deviantart or something like that... well, that site is nothing BUT anime-style Mary Sues. That's also the thing. If you ever call an author out, even on a blatantly obvious Mary Sue, oh boy, 9 times out of 10, will they get defensive.

I think it was on a Persona 5 sub reddit I made a post about this.

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend Reddit for dealing with 'hot' topics. You're pretty much 100% guaranteed to get a heated debate. And a long one, to boot.

Yeah, I've learned that the hard way.