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Which should I get? Birthright of Conquest?
You see I kinda started to get into Fire Emblem. Since I'm already planning to get Awakening first, I'm kinda torn of which game i will get for Fates you know? So Birthright of Conquest?
You see I kinda started to get into Fire Emblem. Since I'm already planning to get Awakening first, I'm kinda torn of which game i will get for Fates you know? So Birthright of Conquest? Jesus autocorrect wtf, it's supposed to be "or" not "of"...
It depends on taste really. First question is are you more interested in difficulty or story?
Honestly though, if you're used to Awakening, Birthright is a bit more up your alley. It's fairly similar in a lot of ways, but it's kind of even easier that Awakening. Story wise it may be better than Conquest, but it's also... boring, frankly. But, at the very least it has some cute girls and decent enough gameplay to keep oneself entertained. Really I'd say go play the GBA games after Birthright. It should be enough of a bridge between Awakening/Birthright and Conquest so you don't feel too lost. The absence of Pair-Up may be weird but the core gameplay is a lot more solid than the 3DS FEs. I'd say Sacred Stones would be the choice pick.
If you want a challenge I would recommend conquest but if you want better story telling then birthright. IMO i liked conquest more but it may be due more to the challenge than the story. it honestly doesn't matter with one you get since they are connected as a single game. Once you buy one the other can be bought as DLC later which then allows you to buy the true path called revelations which is better than both in general. When you beat either or path revelations is automatically easier simply because you can buy the skills learned from the characters of the other paths or just outright buy the character.
It depends on taste really. First question is are you more interested in difficulty or story? Hmm... I like both! I guess story a tad more...
Honestly though, if you're used to Awakening, Birthright is a bit more up your alley. It's fairly similar in a lot of ways, but it's kind of even easier that Awakening. Story wise it may be better than Conquest, but it's also... boring, frankly. But, at the very least it has some cute girls and decent enough gameplay to keep oneself entertained. Really I'd say go play the GBA games after Birthright. It should be enough of a bridge between Awakening/Birthright and Conquest so you don't feel too lost. The absence of Pair-Up may be weird but the core gameplay is a lot more solid than the 3DS FEs. I'd say Sacred Stones would be the choice pick. Ah, I have heard Sacred Stones is quite popular... I'll try it out someday!
If you want a challenge I would recommend conquest but if you want better story telling then birthright. IMO i liked conquest more but it may be due more to the challenge than the story. it honestly doesn't matter with one you get since they are connected as a single game. Once you buy one the other can be bought as DLC later which then allows you to buy the true path called revelations which is better than both in general. When you beat either or path revelations is automatically easier simply because you can buy the skills learned from the characters of the other paths or just outright buy the character. Kinda wish Revelations wasn't a DLC , but oh well.
So anyways I guess I'll choose Birthright. I hope it won't be too easy well I'm planning to get Awakening soon and probably play it before fates. Then that'll be my first fire emblem game! Thank you guys so much!~
Gin
Neither. Get Echoes instead. Or do what Emerson said and save money, get a GBA emulator and play the three games on the GBA.
I also recommend echoes more, so I agree.
Echoes is kinda totally different from pretty much every game in the series, not really a good indicator for Fire Emblem as a whole. As for Revelations, personally I think you’re better off passing on it, trust me, the level design is garbage and it kinda pokes the plots of Birthright and Conquest so full of holes Swiss cheese would be jealous
Gin
Yeah, that's true. I'd mention the biggest problem in Revelations, but that would be a major spoiler if I brought him up, so I won't. As for an honest answer to the question, I'd say Conquest because (in my opinion) it has a few more noteworthy characters and the difficulty is more like the older FE games than Awakening, so I'm inclined to like that more as someone who played and enjoyed the older games when I was younger. Birthright does have Oboro and Sakura, who are awesome, though I wouldn't say the stories better per say. Revelations has all the characters, which is a big plus, and is the "true" story, but it probably has the worst story and maps of the three routes.
So Echoes is good as well? Okay! I'll try to get it later this year!
For me Conquest is actually the worst because it has a big problem with one character, Xander, because he is two faced between Support Xander and Story Xander, and Story Xander is bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1kJbP4A4Gc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGGAEeNW1zM So I prefer even revalations over Conquest, but that is just my own taste. I think it's really mostly up to preferance but birthright is the easiest so agood begin choce. But I enjoy Echoes gameplay and story more.
Echoes isn't good. It's fuckin' amazing.
Everything related to Conquest’s story is horrible. Except Iago actually, he’s probably the most concrete and interesting character along the plotted line, which is kinda sad. Overall Conquest’s main selling point is the gameplay, which, if you don’t mind a challenge, is miles better than Revelation (with its issues such as levels where you basically have to use all fliers, and getting a level 4 prepomote Effie in a level intended for level 5 promoted Koga) and a bit better than Birthright’s (though I leave that one to personal taste)
Personally, I'd start with FE Blazing Sword for GBA or Awakening for 3DS. The FE Fates games aren't designed to be the first games you play.
It actually saddens me to see so much hate for Conquest. Out of the three games in Fates, I actually found it the best. In Birthright, the entire story is "Anime" to an extreme. It's all super happy, sappy stuff, with a lot of back and forth filler side maps that really didn't need to exist. The story body count is actually higher too. You have people intentionally killing themselves over the dumbest of reasons, and it all felt very out of place. There was no real character development to be had here. Everyone pretty much stays the same. (Start with this game first if you want the worst experience first) Conquest, for me, had a better written staff. They were more interesting, felt more like an actual fire emblem game, and had a progressing plot that just felt more natural to the story. I'll have to watch Aki's "Two faces of Xander" character later, but Xander was actually my favorite character in the game, and I felt he gets unfairly shit on a lot, without really looking at his character in an unbiased way. Everyone else actually gets quite a bit of character development, and you can see where they are all coming from. In either storyline, the opposite faction is written in such a way that they are intentionally designed to look stupid, and very concrete in their beliefs that the hero was stolen from them, and all hell will pay, and the only way to sate it is with the blood of your chosen faction. Revelations is the only one that kinda curbs this by you telling both sides to get bent, but the problem with this is both sides awkwardly agree to team up with you in a very narratively forced way that doesn't really feel organic. It technically has the best ending, but it doesn't really give you the character development to give it a solid, full filling experience.
Echoes is a fire emblem remake of and earlier fire emblem game before they added the weapon wheel which is one of the reasons is a bit more challenging. They just gave it better graphics, more defined character growths and reduced the map sizes (the original games map sizes were completely ridiculous in size with barely any enemies.) It is in my opinion a better game than fates though even though they really just took steps back its a refreshing game. I agree to joker to an extent about fates though my favorite character is Nyx though lol. As a whole it does feel like conquest is better but i believe it mostly contributes to the fact that you are by all intents and purposes the "Bad Guy" and its the first time in fire emblem history where you play from that perspective. Though the story as a whole could still do with more work such as certain motivations for the main cast and how they went about doing things it was my favorite route. Despite that however, as far as whats "popular" more people tend to gravitate towards birthright. My personal opinion on this is that it probably has something to do with it becoming a mainstream game thanks to awakening so since it still holds a lot of similarities between the two then it was probably intended to appeal to that specific audience now. Many older fire emblem players have pretty much voiced their overall discontent with the newer fire emblem games but it doesn't really matter since the newer fan base is larger than the older fan base. Just my on observation though. I do believe echoes may be a direct attempt at alleviating some of that discontent.
Get Conquest and play Classic Infernal. That's the best way to get introduced to Fire Emblem.
I'd say get Conquest first, and then get Echoes later on.
Are you guys trying to get a newbie killed? It's difficulty is partially my fault
Are you guys trying to get a newbie killed? It's difficulty is partially my fault Easier to learn now than later.
If they beat it, either they're naturally gifted, they made their corrin so overpowered he's self sustaining in a fight without heals, or they went and bought DLC to make it easier.
Corrin or Kana can pretty much carry you through the game with the right skills
Corrin or Kana can pretty much carry you through the game with the right skills I think you mean Ryoma. Yes, even in Conquest.
I made what I like to call, an Ike Flavoured Corrin. He's a vanguard. I made him OP as hell. Lets just say he was able to one round KO the final boss of hard mode on conquest and birthright. Gotta love crit rates and aether procs.
Vanguard as a whole is the most powerful class in the game. Technically the most powerful class in the franchise. Its not really surprising. Kana can pretty much do the same in her base advanced class on highest difficulty. I should know, I've done it dozens of times.
I have sentence for Conquest: Screw chapter 10. Also don't forget my critical rate and my sons.
(edited by Pineapple)
Your sons? You mean, W A R I S H E C K ?
Difficulty is subjective. I have my Corrin so overpoweredly broke, he can solo the entire game.